In many ways, I think that’s why he wanted me to get involved. He also has an alien living in him who calls him a loser. The fact that, I mean, his Eddie Brock is such a confused, mucked up guy, fraud guy… Sort of grungy kind of sort of dysfunctional characters that are outsiders. Tom and I have quite similar sensibilities in a way – definitely swimming in the darker end of the swimming pool. Well, I’m curious, when you saw the first Venom, what was your reaction? It is very unique. And then Venom 1 came out and I thought, “Oh, that was the character he was talking about.” But then I never heard from him again for a while. In fact, he called me before the first Venom and said, “Andy, I’m going to be doing this character and it’s going to be a digital character, and I wondered if I could come down to the Imaginarium,” which is a performance-capture studio, “and do some sort of practice with performance capture.” And at that time he was thinking of using it. And whether it be as actors or whether it was me directing. So, look, the thing is Tom and I knew each other a bit – have known each other for years and years and years and have wanted to work together for quite some time. That’s a very diplomatic way of putting it. So entering this, how do you create a dynamic where on-screen it’s still chaos, but behind the scenes it’s not? But it also strangely created this chaos that worked. Because, the first film, I don’t think it’s a secret that Ruben and Tom didn’t always see eye to eye on how the movie should be. So I’m trying to get into your mindset a little bit. But, in the end, we know this movie is about (as Serkis says) the “love affair” between Eddie and Venom. So how does Serkis keep that onscreen chaos and keep things calmer when the camera isn’t on? And, now, he’s got (his former War for the Planet of the Apes co-star) Woody Harrelson as Cletus Kasady, aka Carnage, and Naomie Harris as Shriek on board to give Eddie and Venom some trouble. And what resulted was chaos, but very entertaining chaos. And it wasn’t entirely a secret that Fleischer and star Tom Hardy didn’t see eye to eye on the movie they were making. Serkis takes over the direction of the Venom franchise from Ruben Fleischer. Serkis then goes on to describe Eddie and Venom’s relationship as a “love affair.” He’s not wrong. And Serkis is a smart guy and wouldn’t, right after saying that, use the wording, “this was Venom’s coming out party,“ without knowing exactly what that implies. I asked director Andy Serkis about this scene and I was surprised how forthcoming he was that the party in question was based on a LGBTIA festival. At this rave Venom gives a (surprisingly) heartfelt speech to everyone in attendance and then goes off on a tangent about how much he misses Eddie, because the two just had a bad argument and have, well, broken up. In Venom: Let There Be Carnage, there’s a scene about midway through where Venom (Tom Hardy), without his host Eddie Brock (also Tom Hardy) attends a rave.
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